Happy Thanksgiving!

I’m thankful for my wonderful husband, my beautiful baby boy, my supportive family and in-laws, financial stability in an instable time, a working car, food on my table, and friends who genuinely value my friendship.

Yeah, I gotta give you kudos, Hapa. For all the heat you take, you remain a gentleman.

As for “intellectual honesty”, pfft. The “conservative” position falls apart from the start there in the issue of “freedom” they so commonly purport to stand for, given that it de facto translates to “freedom to conform to our reactionary norms”. (For some reason flag-saluting and scripture-thumping is wont to be involved.)

The point is that Thanksgiving is supposed to be a holiday that is beyond all that. It’s not about the dark and horrid parts of our history, nobody celebrates those. It’s about a bright point, and a symbolic gesture of hope and peace.

Watchman, as for the ‘open-minded’ issue, I think the point there isn’t that both sides aren’t closed minded, it’s that Conservatives don’t generally PRETEND to be otherwise. We usually admit that we have our minds made up about a subject, and it takes some deal of convincin’ to change our minds. Liberals obviously PRETEND to be, as much so that it has become a mantra ‘open minded and tolerant’, but clearly aren’t so with anything with which they disagree. One side is at least intellectually honest about being closed minded. Which doesn’t play well on TV (ala Ann Coulter et al), but at least it’s honest.

Okay, get this straight: *where* do contagious diseases do the most damage ? In densely populated areas, that’s where. Like, say, the highly organised agricultural civilisations of South and Central Americas with their teeming cities and extensive internal communications infrastructure.
Not so much in sparser regions of small village-sized communities. Like the North American continent for the most part was (although as mentioned I’m under the impression demographic damage from the plagues was the direct cause of several regional proto-urban societies collapsing back to less sophisticated ecological patterns before “white” explorers even reached them).

The point being, the overwhelming majority of deaths by disease happened in the populous parts of the New World, ie. the middle and the south - already because there simply was *far* more people there to begin with. And yet to this day - again as already mentioned - people of native descent, be it now mixed or “purebred”, form a sizeable chunk of the Latin American demographics.

And as much damage as the Eurasian and African germ pools now did to the North Americans, there was still no particular shortage of tribes getting pissed off at the territorial encroachement of the “white” settlers either before or long after the American Revolution. Not in the least, one imagines, partly because human populations rarely if ever actually get completely obliterated by diseases - the decimation may be quite horrifying, but all but inevitably enough folks will survive and develop resistance and pass it on to their descendants.
Microbes are actually pretty shitty at long-term population control you know.

By the 1800s, when US land-grabbing really got afoot, the natives had been exposed to the lethal alien epidemics for two-three centuries already; yet there still wasn’t any lack of native obstacles to “white” territorial expansion.
As much good as it now did them.

Face it: the US method for dealing with such Untermencsh savages getting in the way of its glorious Drang nach Westen expansion - “Manifest Destiny”, wasn’t it? - was by and large summary extermination, or at best confinement in the squalid misery of barely ecologically viable tiny reservations.
Which, besides the fact there weren’t nearly as many of them around even before Columbus, goes a long way to explaining why the survivors of the Northern indigenous populaces aren’t much of a demographic presence unlike their southern cousins.

And I’m pretty sure I’ve typed most of the above before.

“…true mantra of the left is to be open minded about anything in the word –so long as they agree with it.”
Oh cry me a river. Like the “Right” was any better - usually it’s much worse actually. After all, something of an universal hallmark of the “conservative” mindset is unwillingness to tolerate ways of life that do not conform to their generally rather narrow and strict norms (ie. differ from theirs), no?
And don’t make me dig up Ann Coulter and the rest of the nutjobs to prove the point.

Either way, it is typical that self-hating whites and anti-white racists take the positive things we have like Thanksgiving and turn it into a racial hate-fest.

You know, the vitriolic reactions to Hapajap’s RLC comics show that the true mantra of the left is to be open minded about anything in the word –so long as they agree with it.

That I’m not an *artiste* who has his own head up his ass and has to make every single image a unique original… well, that just means I’ve got other things to do. Like things that pay the bills.

And again, if you don’t like it, LEAVE. No one is forcing you to come here and read my drivel and look at my horrible ‘clip-art’, now are they?