No, I’m not for the AIG morons who caused the problems getting bonuses. I wasn’t for their bail-out in the first place. But the money is paid, you can’t take it back, that’s a horrible precedent to set. Confiscation of private property because Obama ram-rodded this bill through the senate before anyone could READ IT? Come on, people. A little perspective, please.
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hap, either you’re unable to read and comprehend, or you’ve absorbed the Echo Chamber’s habit of scrambling words to pretend something was said that wasn’t. Stop building strawmen and *start comprehending what you read*.
If you’d like to try and make anyone “look dumber” than yourself, you’d do well to drop the bedtime stories.
FO, you’re such a broken record! :V
Evolution is a paradox. See the for evo to make sense and trace it all the way back, points the the big bang theory. Yet the majority of the scientific community says the big bang never happened. Also country of origin does matter as there are quite a few differences in economies. For example the United States and China have very different economies.
Nah, I can just read through your BS.
Congrats hap, you’re just as completely retarded as I always assumed.
rsvieh, either quit pulling stuff wholesale out of your ass (I’d like to see a citation for this “majority of the scientific community”) or leave the typing to adults.
the adults being you who cant spell a name thats on the screen?
let’s start a list of people who give a shit about spelling your screen name
Hahaha. I like how I can say literally anything, Hapajap, but if I call you by your true identity, you delete it.
” Hamburglar says:
March 22, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Hahaha. I like how I can say literally anything, Hapajap, but if I call you by your true identity, you delete it.”
quote this if you’re down
My house, my rules. You don’t like it, you can piss off. No one will miss you.
What I don’t understand is that you, stevehaas, continually come back to this site just to call hapajap an idiot in so many different ways. It must take a special kind of gall to call hapajap a “broken record” with a straight face.
I’m a drooling simpleton.
For what it’s worth, I just think it’s funny, because you must be aware of how insane your views are, and that no comic distributor would hire you if they knew what a quack and hateful person you actually were.
‘Tis the liberal way, Schizzy. They pretend to be the ideology of ‘peace, tolerance and love’, and all that, but they’re really the ideology of violence, intolerance and hate. They live their lives in a dichotomous state of hypocrisy. It’s why they are the ideology of ‘the fairness doctrine’, because they want to shut down opposing views. Why they swarm to a site like this just to tell me I’m stupid multiple times each day (even when I don’t post something new! lol). Why they come to churches to scream at us for being the ‘hateful’ ones in the middle of services. Why they are the ones who vandalize peoples houses and physically attack old women for publicly proclaiming their support for real marriage…
I could probably go on all night. But there you have it, it must be so hard for them to live like that, so you have to feel sorry for them, and be patient with them. They’re like little children who refuse to grow up.
Hammy, you ignorant twit, comic distributors don’t hire artists. Comic publishers do. And don’t fret about me, I’ve got plenty of work right now, yes, in comics. Though I have just recently made the decision to change my career direction. Comics are a dying artform, sad to say. It’s why I’ve delved into digital distribution and web comics, just for the love of the medium… but the writing is on the wall. Time to move on.
You know that just because we disagree with you, it doesn’t mean we’re liberal, right Hap? Or is that too much for you to handle?
If you agreed with me, you’d be a conservative.
Thank you Schizzy, I always appreciate the input of hap’s sock puppets
Hap, if we agreed with you, we’d be too cross-eyed with the Downs to even read the screen. Probably too busy looking over our shoulder for the Pink Menace to even try to anyway.
Ah, nothing smells sweeter than the putrid hatred of a red diaper baby liberal proving my points for me. Thanks, Steve, you never fail to satisfy.
“If you agreed with me, you’d be a conservative.”
Whatever you say.
Besides, that proves nothing. You have to be a conservative to agree with you, but you don’t have to be a liberal to disagree with you.
I’d say to disagree with me this spitefully, chances are you would have to be.
Okay.
Gosh, I can see the ire and hatred dripping off my screen.
It’s incredible people that spend hours on end calling each other idiots can even pretend to be political intellectuals. And over a webcomic, no less.
Aren’t there better places to pretend to be smart where you can at least develop a sense of credibility? I doubt you’re here to sway anyone’s opinions when your only form of argument is be by calling people names.
Jizzy.
Hee.
Not to mention all this time and effort when you know there’s only like 12 people who will read past 3 comments down a thread like this. lol
Yeah i got kinda bored like 30 posts ago.
Hey Hey I’M the broken record people!!!
Get it straight!!
or did he say the same thing to you Hapa?
Is “red diaper baby liberal” really the best you can do when your deepest beliefs are so easily dismantled by simple rationality?
Hey Hapa, here is what a good comic looks like. http://www.ptbutler.com/reconstructingcomics/2009/03/23/hapajap-is-probably-racist/
Oh, so you’re a racist.
and a thief.
wuh oh
Since reading must not be one of your strong points, I’ll just post the commentary for you.
Right Left Center, a comic by a completely insane republican. Hapajap is the kind of deluded, hateful shithead who makes the world worse simply by existing, he perpetuates every negative stereotype of the republican party and I can only imagine how frustrating he is to those reasonable conservatives out there. He’s the loud, angry, Rush Limbaugh loving bottom line of the party that does nothing but undermine and embarrass those who are unfortunate enough to end up associated with him.
He’s also an idiot about other things. He lost his money recently sinking it into a pyramid scheme all the while proclaiming it WASN’T a pyramid scheme and he knew just what he was doing! He even paid $10 a month access a site full of tips like “You can get free refill sodas in some places!”. His other comics, which were lost when his money ran out, were a bad superhero story and a shitty gaming comic that came off as massively racist.
On a technical front, he’s not a completely horrific artist, just a horrific person.
I disagree about the art part though. All Hapa does is copy/paste from a selection of 5-6 panels and then adds in word balloons filled with shit he has no real fucking clue about.
Dude, I have more than 5-6 panels I cut and paste from! I think it’s more like maybe 10-15?
Also, I’m not a Republican. More of a libertarian independent if I had to pigeon-hole myself with a label. That, and I don’t listen to Rush at all. I think I’ve heard his show maybe twice?
Libertarian….I don’t think you quite understand what that word means.
Sigh…
Ditto on that Hapajap . . . even in high school I was always filed under “libertarian”.
Libertarians are committed to the belief that individuals, and not states or groups of any other kind, are both ontologically and normatively primary; that individuals have rights against certain kinds of forcible interference on the part of others; that liberty, understood as non-interference, is the only thing that can be legitimately demanded of others as a matter of legal or political right; that robust property rights and the economic liberty that follows from their consistent recognition are of central importance in respecting individual liberty; that social order is not at odds with but develops out of individual liberty; that the only proper use of coercion is defensive or to rectify an error; that governments are bound by essentially the same moral principles as individuals; and that most existing and historical governments have acted improperly insofar as they have utilized coercion for plunder, aggression, redistribution, and other purposes beyond the protection of individual liberty.
Since everyone likes wikipedia so much . . .
What do you think Hapa?
You people support indefinite detention, torture, pre-emptive war waged under false pretenses, and think who is fucking who to be the business of government. Yeah, you’re true libertarians alright.
Don’t get me wrong, however; social conservatives proclaiming themselves to be libertarians has tremendous comedic value.
Pretty much sums it up for me. ‘Indefinite detention’ of enemy combatants who refuse to abide Geneva protocols? Nah, I’d rather just execute them, personally. You want to kill us, you swear you will kill us if we let you go? Kill them first. Waterboarding is not torture. I can’t accept that anything we do to our own special forces as a part of their training can be defined as torture if we use it on someone who has sworn to destroy our way of life.
As for Pre-emptive war… you mean Iraq, right? It’s funny how liberals forget how the entire world agreed that Saddam had WMD. That as part of the cease fire from the ‘91 war, he was obligated to allow weapons inspectors free access to make sure he wouldn’t develop WMD. That 17 times the UN had to ‘reprimand’ him for breaking that agreement. What does it mean when someone breaks the terms of a cease-fire? Oh, I guess it means that the cease-fire is over, and we go BACK TO WAR. The ‘91 war never ENDED if you ask me. Nevermind that he was firing on our aircraft as we policed the no-fly zone for years… We just stopped fighting because we were dumb enough to believe Saddam’s lies.
Anyway… ‘false pretenses’ that the entire world believed? Who’s the liar now?
You’re kind of saying that we should have no problem with the bonuses that execs are getting because of the way the free market works, or else that the bailout shouldn’t have happened at all with this comic? Both are pretty horrible things to believe.
Oh, hey, Hapajap, do you remember that comic you drew when you compared Yugioh cards to evolution and said that since opening a blister pack isn’t exactly the same as digging up a fossil, then evolution doesn’t exist? It could have been a magnificent troll but then we argued about it. You said you were “just using the words of the scientific community” when your argument was literally that there are extinct species of soft-bodied creatures that aren’t fossilized as easily as dinosaurs, and since there aren’t as many fossils of them, it proves that evolution doesn’t exist. As in, you actually argued that if fossilization was real, jellyfish fossils would be as numerous and easy to find as triceratops fossils. Do you remember that?
I remember that. I remember trying so very hard to teach you something about how fossilization works, and then you just kind of said “I don’t care how it works because it doesn’t mesh with my religious beliefs, so I will just make up whatever I want about it.”
That’s not at all how my argument went. I know what the argument is, it’s got nothing to do with jellyfish.
And yes, I’m saying the bailout was the wrong thing to do. The system probably would have righted itself already if we never started in with the bailouts. Sure, it still would have gotten pretty crappy for a lot of people, but we wouldn’t be on the fast track to socialism either.
Oh, and welcome back! It’s nice to see all my detractors back here to give me such a warm welcome.
Yes, indefinitely detaining fucking *sheephereders* turned in for a bounty by Afghan warlords for years without charge is definitely keeping you safe and snug at night. Tell me hap, do you believe the Bill of Rights to be referring to *human* rights universally, or just special privileges for Americans? If you answered anything but the first option, congratulations, you know absolutely nothing and the document is worthless. Maybe you can tell me instead why, if all of these people are such obvious horrible monsters, you’re afraid of actually trying them in anything other than a kangaroo court?
“Waterboarding is not torture”; awesome; send your wife over immediately so I can try it out on her then. We’ll time how long it takes for you to realize 24 is a TV show and not a documentary.
If the “entire world” agreed that Iraq possessed WMD that presented some sort of clear and present danger to the rest of the world, then why were we the only ones screaming for blood? Let me guess, it’s because “them faggot Frenchies and Yuro-peons are pussies”, right?
We invaded Iraq to destroy weapons that *did not exist*. The US government *knew* they did not exist. If that doesn’t fall under “false pretenses” in your book, you’d do well to quit doodling “lol niggers and chinks” crap long enough to pull your head out of the echo chamber.
Keep telling us how you’re a “Libertarian” though, please. I’m still giggling from it hours later, and it meshes really well with your belief that a blastocyst is entitled to more rights than an actual human being.
I said ‘independent libertarian’, meaning I don’t tow any party lines. I think for myself.
You’re clearly ignorant as can be on who exactly is being held at Gitmo, so maybe you should do a little research yourself on who is in custody there before you make yourself sound any dumber.
My good friend was Navy Special Forces. He’s been waterboarded so that my wife doesn’t have to be. And just FYI, I don’t watch 24, though I hear it’s good.
And yeah, dude, you are aware that Saddam had used WMD before, right? And you do know what the 17 UN resolutions were for, right? Why am I asking, of course you don’t. Buy a clue, it was only 7 years ago.
bahahahaha
You have as much claim to being a Libertarian as I do to being a Maori warrior. That is, none.
You’re so naive and clueless it’s getting more sad than funny. “Only terrists are held at gitmo, God created me in seven days, waterboarding isn’t torture, the US military is infallible, and the best defense I have for any of these viewpoints is ‘nuh uh!’”
And yeah, Saddam had used WMD….in 1988. Which makes plenty of sense as a causus belli in 2003! I think we should go after Aum Shinrikyo next to destroy their stockpiles, before neutralizing the Prussian menace.
Tell your “friend” it’s awesome that apparently he’s the only thing keeping your family from being tortured.
No, it was IN YOUR COMIC that since we find MULTIPLE FOSSILS OF THE SAME SPECIES, THIS DISPROVES EVOLUTION. You then LITERALLY SAID that “[You're] just using the words of scientists” when you argued that fossilization is extremely rare: so rare that finding multiple fossils of the same species is a literal impossibility.
You made the argument that we have more fossils of certain kinds of animals than other kinds, and this proves that fossilization is useless as a tool to prove the evolutionary theory. The argument that, LITERALLY, bones fossilize more easily than soft tissue, but because we don’t have as many fossils of invertebrates as we do of vertebrates, then evolution is disproved.
I used jellyfish as an example of what you were arguing: you were literally arguing that invertebrates (creatures without skeletons, i.e., jellyfish) aren’t fossilized as easily as vertebrates (creatures with skeletons, i.e., triceratops). This is obvious. But then you went a step further and said that because of this easily verifiable fact (bones fossilize more easily than soft tissue), evolution does not exist.
You didn’t mention jellyfish because anyone who knows anything about fossils knows that you don’t expect to find as many invertebrate fossils as vertebrate fossils. As in, you knew absolutely nothing about what you were talking about, and now you’re denying it to save face.
But keep defending torture. Oh, I’m sorry, I meant to type “enhanced interrogation techniques.” I’m glad it’s not torture, and that we can borrow terms invented by Nazi Germany in World War II for the exact same reasons they were invented. The irony is lost on you, but whatever.
Your memory is faulty, Rokc. Yeah, you got the gist of it right, but the whole invertebrate argument is something I’ve never said. I know what I believe about this, and that isn’t part of the argument at all. Never has been.
Although I do have to say your wording of what I said is horribly wrong as well. lol. You might want to put down the pipe, your memory is going up in smoke.
Oh shit a pot metaphor. Facts and the logical reasoning of all reputable archaeologists can’t repel burns of THIS magnitude!
But your comic was a literal argument that, when you open a pack of trading cards, sometimes you find cards you have found before. But this also happens when digging up fossils I HAVE PROVEN SCIENCE WRONG.
Did you even read the last post? The part where I pointed out where you never actually said invertebrates, but pointed out that every single fossil ever needs to be a different species for fossilization to have some basis in reality? Here, I’ll even spell out the argument you’re trying to say you didn’t put forth:
- Animals are fossilized.
- Fossilization is a rare process.
- If fossilization is so rare, why do more than one fossil for one species of animal exist?
- Wizards of the Coast makes more than one of each Yugioh card.
- If duplicate Yugioh cards exist, it is perfectly analagous with fossils.
- I will draw a tube holding Yugioh cards and disprove science.
- “I’m just using the words of scientists.” (hint: you weren’t)
I AM NOT SAYING YOU MENTIONED INVERTEBRATES. It’s capitalized in case you missed it the last time I said it. But your argument was that all fossils of all species should be found in equal number, which means (EVEN IF YOU DIDN’T SAY IT) that invertebrate fossils would be just as numerous as all other fossils.
And, as is totally obvious to anyone with any knowledge of what fossils are, this idea is fucking ridiculous.
Actually, I made the argument QUOTING evolution believing scientists. And the fact that you can’t grasp the yu-gi-oh cards as being a metaphor, is similar to your inability to understand what irony is.
Your debating skills may overwhelm your 8 year old nephew, but please try not to play with the adults. You’re embarrassing yourself.
BTW, the pipe comment wasn’t a metaphor. It was an insinuation. Though I don’t know why I’m bothering to explain it to you…
How old are you, anyway? No offense, but you reason like you’re in middle school.
When you’re trying to make an allegation about a scientific argument, rather than a philosophical one, metaphors mean nothing. When you’re drawing a direct similarity between the two objects at hand, that’s an analogy.
Quote from Wikipedia:
Metaphor (from the from Latin metaphora; see the Greek origin below) is language that directly compares seemingly unrelated subjects.
Analogy is both the cognitive process of transferring information from a particular subject (the analogue or source) to another particular subject (the target), and a linguistic expression corresponding to such a process.
So a metaphor is not what it was. “All the world’s a stage” is a very famous example of a metaphor. When attempting to draw a logical conclusion from whatever it’s being drawn from, this is an analogy.
In example, the Watchmaker’s Analogy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmaker_analogy
The argument that the watch is too complicated to have existed without a creator or designer. William Paley, who is famous for creating this argument, shows an analogous ( <—– this is important! this word here!) parallel between the universe and a watch.
You made a comic trying to make an analogous link between the fossil record and a collectible card game that’s basically Magic: the Gathering for people who can’t handle playing a complicated card game.
A metaphor would not have tried to be analytical about the supposedly logical conclusion to be drawn between the two. If it had been “I put my archaeologists in attack position”, then that would have been a metaphor.
And seriously? “Your memory going up in smoke” IS A METAPHOR. A METAPHOR THAT COMPARES MEMORIES TO SMOKING WEED. And I’m the one who needs to “not play with the adults”?
SMOOOOOKKKKIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGG WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED METAPHOR