Let us EVOLV!!!
August 17th, 2009
As some… or most of you might know… I’ve tried my hand at a few network marketing ‘opportunities’ in my day, not a lot, but enough to know I didn’t want anything to do with any more of them. In many cases they are just overpriced products you can get somewhere else for less money and less hassle, and you have to bug your friends to join your network to make any money. (caveat, I am ‘doing’ Mona Vie, just because it took my wife’s excema away, and so she uses it regularly anyway, so if we’re going to buy it, we might as well be signed up.)
So, yeah, not a big fan of network marketing. Now here comes the ‘but’…
BUT…
A friend of mine from high school, Derek Wall, shot me a message about a new venture he’s getting in on the ground floor of, and it’s opportunity for others to make money too.
Derek I listen to. Why? Derek was a founder of Ezekiel clothing, has built and sold mega-million dollar companies, and is currently a president of Buy.com. (you know, that website Howie Mandell does all the commercials for?)
Derek doesn’t need to make money on a network marketing scam. Now, why is Derek involved? Because he’s family/friends with another fellow named Trey White, who is also a monstrously successful business man who has built and sold companies for mega-millions of dollars and more… actually, let me just clip this from the website…
Some of Trey’s successful businesses include:
- Homestore.com – 1999 IPO /$10 Billion market cap. Merged with Realtor.com, the world’s largest real estate listings provider.
- Chairman, created the 4th largest producer of Ethanol in the US by investing $500 million into ethanol refining investments.
- Chairman, EarthQuest: a $500 million Disney-style Theme Park, currently under development.
- Chairman, TKR Capital, a private equity firm headquartered in Dallas, Texas.
So point being, this is not a guy that needs to start some scam business to make money either.
Therefore I listen to Derek, Derek listens to Trey. These guys could buy and sell me about a million times over. They say ’pre-enroll’, I pre-enroll.
What is the product? Honestly, I didn’t even know when I signed up. I just jumped at the opportunity presented. But now I have a better idea of what it is, although I don’t have all the specifics because I couldn’t make the conference calls. lol
Basically, it’s water. Not just ‘water’ water, but a water that has developed for I think about 15 years at MD Anderson (world famous for cancer research, google it), that is processed in such a way as to oxygenate your system. Not like these phony ‘oxygen water’s you find at Whole Foods or Amway (Quixtar, sorry… lol)… but the process actually allows your cells to oxygenate themselves.
Aside from the obvious health benefits along the lines of fighting sickness, disease, etc., something else came to my own mind… Bicyclists.
Remember a few years ago when there was a big controversy over Tour de France racers using EPO? Here’s a reminder: http://www.pfitzinger.com/labreports/epo.shtml
Basically, these guys were taking a hormone that would allow their bodies to create more blood cells to carry more oxygen to their cells, and it gave them a competitive edge in the race.
Evolv created a water that increases the oxygenation of cells… This will likely be huge in the sports industry… WHEN IT LAUNCHES.
So… I don’t know a heck of a lot more about it, I’m learning as I go, but I wasn’t about to let the chance to get in on the foundation (not the ground floor, since it hasn’t launched yet, we’re PRE-ground floor!) of this exciting new product launch.
Pre-Enrolling is free, no risk, no loss, but pre-enrolling does guarantee you placement in the early adopter category of what could well be an incredible business venture.
If you think it’s something you might be interested in, just go sign up here: http://underdog.myevolv.biz and you can watch videos and read FAQ’s and whatnot.
To your health!
Hapa
Hapajap does not have an irrational fear of Gays. He simply thinks they are sinful because someone interpreted the Bible that way for him.
Wait, did I just see Hapajap calling Trucker Tom out for creating an opposite-gender persona on the Internet? Hapajap, the guy who created a self-insertion fantasy comic in which his Gary Stu was actually a Mary Sue?
Damn, that is awesome.
Also gays are like Yugioh cards. You see….
It looks like a lot of the debate here is about wether the stuff work or not. When it comes to a business decision that isn’t neccecarily important. The whole reason why snake oil salesmen existed is that people will buy useless stuff for bad reasons. How many people have you seen wearing those magnetic bracelets or drinking all sorts of ginsing supplements. That’s part of why someone can make a lot of money on these items. If it promotes general well being and someone drinks it and feels good, they’re sold. I don’t know a lot of people who read extensive articles before they buy their water. Granted I mostly drink tap water anyhow. Selling a questionable product is not the most moral position, but that’s up to you. Happa is defending the product, but he’s trying to convince us to sell the water, not neccecarily drink it.
I’ve known several friends involved in these direct marketing setups. One was a secretary for their home office. Generally people did make money on it, but the vast majority were the folks at the top. The people at the bottom do make money, but it did strike me as just shy of a pyramid scheme.
Now, some direct marketing is done on a flatter model. My mom does direct sales for Medela breast pumps and it does help pay the bills. Of course, Medela is a very respected name for breast pumps (as I found out).
I already tutor and do freelance CAD work to pick up some moonlighting money, so I’m not looking for a new venture.
Gary Stu, Mary Sue… whatheheckareyoutalkingabout?
Tokker, it’s not just water. It’s food derived enzymes and amino acids and other good, NATURAL stuff, produced in a way that is colorless and tasteless. It’s actually only 50% natural spring water.
Anyway, as I said before, I doubt highly that Trey White would have sunk $150 million into trying to shill water and ruin his reputation. I highly recommend pre-enrolling and listening to the conference calls they have uploaded. Very insightful as to how this product actually was developed.
http://underdog.myevolv.biz
the very best thing in all of this, even better than the fact that Hapajap is about to once again lose all his money on a crappy product, is that he let someone in the comments get under his skin so much he wrote a comic about them. That’s just fucking pathetic.
Is this the same Trey White that’s a convicted child molester?
He’s a comic artist. If something annoys him it only makes sense to make a comic out of it. It’s a good directing of his frustration.
kuni, I don’t want to side-track the discussion, but if you read the Bible, the anti-homosexual direction isn’t hard to find. Read the Pauline letters. Paul is very concerned with sexula morality and “proper” gender roles. One of his big causes for concern was that his gentile converts didn’t do the sexual acts that were otherwise accepted in Roman and Greek, but not Hebrew, culture.
What a douche you are, Nicholei, to say something like that. A simple google search of “trey white” “child molester”, results in NOTHING. Not even someone with the same name. That’s such underhanded garbage, I can’t believe someone can be so despicable.
hahahaha you had to search anyway because you don’t know anything about this guy.
Seriously, though, is this the Trey White that’s a convicted child molester?
Wow, it’s pretty sad that the only remaining argument you have against Trucker Tom is a slightly watered down version of “get back to the kitchen.” I thought you were better than that.
Oh wait, no I didn’t. Because, you see, an argument is like a deck of Yugioh cards and some retarded argument that four year old boys know is bullshit. Who gives a damn about her sex? It wasn’t developed at MD Anderson, there’s nothing about it on their website, and it isn’t a patented product. You’re shilling lies, even if you don’t know it.
Now I’ll rub my testicles together to start a fire.
THESE CRABS ARE KILLING ME! DAMN YOU MOM!!!!
Is it patented? If so, plese give us a patent number.
If it isn’t, I’m not terribly suprised. Many products aren’t out of concerns that an expensive patent will be bypassed. As someone who has worked around a couple patents, sometimes the patent only gives the competitor a head start. Although Coke was origionally sold as medicinal, it still is not patented.
Looking at the othr thread, sounds like happa is asking about the patent number.
Waiting for a reply on that, Tokker. Rokc, sorry about your problem…. Try some cream!
Nic, I checked to see if there was ANYONE named Trey White who was a child molester. I thought for a fleeting second you might be asking an honest question. Silly me.
I saw one Try White that was a researcher for teh Oak Ridge National Labs…doesn’t look like the guy in the video.
Hapa, it looks like right now you are pretty much pushing the “preregistration” for the business opportunity and don’t actually have a lot of hard data on the product. From what I gather you are mostly going on the advice of a friend who does know more. Although you don’t have a lot of data, you are pushing the preregistration as it is, according to you, a no commitment way to get started and you want to get people going on this right away. Is that about right?
If that’s the case, then we are all, as usual, shouting at eachother without much cause.
HaPa, seriously, don’t do this.
You were a good artist once, Your “Hedge Knight” stuff is good, even back when you were doing Triumph, it was quality art. I know it’s all gone wrong for you, but do you seriously want to fall for another of these schemes? And for a product this crappy?
Nobody is going to pay three dollars for a bottle of water, even one that’s a “nutraceutical beverage”, especially one that doesn’t yet have a published ingredient list.
Tokker: I’m not suggesting that there isn’t a certain perspective on homosexuality espoused by the Bible. In fact, I am suggesting that Hapajap’s position on the subject is taken directly from the Bible, instead of it being a product of his own ratiocination (Thanks Saw.)
But that’s an aside.
“nutraceutical” – sounds like a fabricated pseudo-scientific marketing term to me.
Whether or not Evolv is what it claims to be, it will already have lots of competition when it launches (Gatorade, Propel and all of the other “Energy drinks” already out there.) How big of a piece of that pie is Evolv going after Hapajap?
Hapa, you work(ed) in comics and seriously don’t know what a Mary Sue is?
Basically, Mika is obviously just a self-insertion of yourself with boobs.
I didn’t know until I googled it. Now I do. Mika does have similarities to my personalty. As does Ron-Ron. In fact, all of them have SOME part of me in them, or it would have been very difficult to write.
In fact, the hardest strips to write were the ones where El Gato would interject his convictions into the characters. They pushed against what I would have ‘done’ as a character.
It’s part of writing, you invest yourself into ALL your characters. Whether they have boobs or not.
what’s funny here is that Hapa edited my comment to take out his name, but not the names of the comics he had worked on.
I thought Mika was a characture of your model wife.
Hahaha… yep, hilarious. And I did it again!
No, my wife is a Russian of Jewish heritage (with some native american, French and some other stuff sprinkled in there), so a half-Japanese character she would not make.
Also his wife is extremely ugly. Have you seen the comic she modeled for? I guess maybe Mika is wishful thinking on his part…
Yeah, they usually hire ugly chicks for models, huh?
Now Trucker Tom, Hapajap is fair game, cuz he’s actually on this forum. But insulting his wife is just bad taste.
When it is a shitty low budget comic that nobody cares about, then yes, they do. In this case they hired two ugly models.
Hey, Cameron, why don’t you post a pic of yourself so we can all see what a stunning beauty YOU are, and then I’ll post a pic of my wife, and we can have a little contest.
You gotta put those two pics up against “Trucker Tom” to be fair to all contestants.
Cameron is ‘Trucker Tom’. She trolls as a man. Don’t ask me why.
I mean, you gotta put up Cameron and your wife’s pictures up against your rendition of “Trucker Tom” to see the “true beauty” of the comparison.
Ahhh… Right. lol.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/11/19/_Evolv_Water_Is_Snake_Oil_Cancer_Center_Says.htm
“Here’s a likely scenario, since they are claiming on their public website that this product was developed at MD Anderson, why don’t you call MD Anderson and tell them to order a cease and desist on them for this OUTRAGEOUS LIE that the billionaire businessman is promulgating?”
Psst. Hey. Hapa. Hey, hey. Hapa? I think you need to check the news….
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/11/19/_Evolv_Water_Is_Snake_Oil_Cancer_Center_Says.htm
“‘Evolv’ Water Is Snake Oil, Cancer Center Says
By CAMERON LANGFORD
“HOUSTON (CN) – Two companies are pushing bottled tap water with false claims that it’s endorsed by the MD Anderson Cancer Center, the University of Texas says in Federal Court. The UT says HealtH20 Products and Evolvehealth sell the bogus water it as “Evolv,” claiming it is infused with an “Archaea Active formula.”
“The Dallas-based companies falsely claim that the Anderson Center tested the water and endorsed it, the UT says. The MD Anderson Center is a leading cancer research institution. …
“The University of Texas wants an injunction, costs, and damages for trademark violations. It is represented by John Rawls with Bracewell and Giuliani.”
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