Comments on: CHUCK FOR PRESIDENT!

By: Watchy

Watchy — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:21:07 +0000

The DHS has mostly “kept you safe” from nonsensical movie-plot threats that did and do not exist outside some security-market racketeer’s creative imagination. At a huge expense at that.
So meh.
Putting his name under the initial bailout plan was in all likelihood the sanest fiscal move of Bush’s entire tenure – since it was in effect recognising that the brown stuff was hitting the propeller thingy and something had to be done about it, a clear improvement from his previous longstanding practice of acute denial.

By: FairlyObvious

FairlyObvious — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:57:25 +0000

No conservative I know likes how much GW Bush spent. We also all were hella mad when he did that whole bailout thing . . .
as opposed to Obama supporters who can only stutter “b-b-b-b-but . . . CHANGE?!?!” during this whole thing.

By: hapajap

hapajap — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:20:25 +0000

Don’t lay GWB’s BS on me, man. I hated that he was spending so much money. He only did a few things well, in my book, and keeping us safe since 9/11 cannot be dismissed. But he was a porker politician like 95% of the chumps in suits who reside in our houses of congress.

By: Watchy

Watchy — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:21:21 +0000

Random observation: Obama tossing a (much-needed) 900 mil $US at the Palestinians is chump change period. The Dept. of Homeland Security budget request for 2009? 50.5 BILLION (”6.8% increase”), to be used on absurdist bullshit, the countering of threats that do not exist, gratuitious surveillance gadgetry and similar dreadfully useful and responsible ends.
http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1202151112290.shtm
*rolleyes*
Don’t come talking about BO having something to do with “pork” when GW has been subsidising that shit for years.

By: Watchy

Watchy — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:07:45 +0000

Eh, most of the first paragraph can be volleyed right back at ya (in a more general sense) merely by switching “liberal” and “republican” and replacing Fox with, well, whatever it now is the far-right US wingnuts now regard as the equivalent on the Left (BBC?).
Appeal rejected.
Also, your sarcasm detector needs new batteries.

It just so happens, y’see, that I just recently ran into some interesting analyses concerning that curious “War Games” feature Beck had on Fox some time ago… and FO’s high-falutin’ talk sounded an *awful* lot like the kind of whackjob thinking involved.

And if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like one etc. I’m going to call it a duck. FO’s “we’re fighters, not whiners” boast most certainly counts as so much hot air, and not very original at that – the pretty much exact same claim, in one form or the other, turns up in the historical record more or less as far back as people now wrote stuff down.
And Pericles put it a lot more eloquently in the Corcryaean Speech, too. (We may incidentally note the Athenians lost that war anyway…)

By: hapajap

hapajap — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:47:07 +0000

You know, Watchy, I remember you being more clear headed than this. So far in this thread alone, you’ve derided an entire cultural segment of the American populace with typical liberal stereotyping, assumed conservatives can’t think for themselves and just take our cues from Fox News, and insulted FO by saying she’s full of hot air.

I had thought better of you. Maybe my memory is fuzzy.

By: Watchy

Watchy — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:00:35 +0000

I’m pretty sure just about *everyone ever* who felt they had something to prove has used that line, or something very close to it…
Kinda stale and dated. Hollow, too, since hot air don’t amount to squat. (You don’t need to study military history very deeply to realize this.)

By: FairlyObvious

FairlyObvious — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:49:11 +0000

Nah, not at all. We’re from the South. That’s where it comes from. We’re fighters, not whiners.

By: Watchy

Watchy — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:42:45 +0000

@ FO: “I think I’ve heard of a few groups getting together in Southern states such as Alabama and Louisiana.”
…you mean the Klansmen are already coming out of their winter hibernation?

Outta curiosity, that talk about civil wars an’ stuff wouldn’t happen to have any connection with an outlet by the name of Fox and some crank named Glenn Beck…?

By: Watchy

Watchy — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:07:48 +0000

Huh. What do you know? My mother was clearly *dead on* when she observed the collapse of the US, whenever it now happens, will come through domestic strife (seeing as how the state is patently immune to any kind of meaningful external invasion)…

I don’t really get of what value old Washington’s musings are supposed to be though. The dude lived a jolly two hundred plus years ago in a world very very fundamentally different, plus, when you get down to it, 18th- and 19th-century folks stated with great conviction quite a lot of stuff that proved to be TOTALLY wrong and divorced from reality…
Which is why rather little of the scientific theory worked out those days is any more in use in any form even remotely close to its original, “classical”, incarnation too.