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		<title>By: Trucker Tom</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>Trucker Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to be completely honest here. I consider myself to be a conservative (not necessarily a Republican) and I tend to agree with Hapa on most of the issues presented on this site. At the start of this post, I agreed with him here as well. He does have a very good argument for Obama having a communist slant. But wow TonyC, you are an amazing debater. Hapajap was good too, but you really stood out here, and you have even convinced me, a reader who generally can&#039;t stand large portions of the Democratic party and the left. Bravo, and I hope this site sees more logical, rational thinkers like you and many more of these intelligent, insightful debates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to be completely honest here. I consider myself to be a conservative (not necessarily a Republican) and I tend to agree with Hapa on most of the issues presented on this site. At the start of this post, I agreed with him here as well. He does have a very good argument for Obama having a communist slant. But wow TonyC, you are an amazing debater. Hapajap was good too, but you really stood out here, and you have even convinced me, a reader who generally can&#8217;t stand large portions of the Democratic party and the left. Bravo, and I hope this site sees more logical, rational thinkers like you and many more of these intelligent, insightful debates.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyC</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. I did not prove you right. I said there is one thing you would actually earn $30 on. And since you didn&#039;t list it, I&#039;m going to tell you and cost you the only $30 you could&#039;ve made off me.

Obama has said more troops should be sent to Afghanistan:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ibEL2evo0W2dcirDt4LR2VRyBQXA

In the capital-C Communist Party of the Soviet Union from the late &#039;70s through the &#039;80s, the Communist leadership deployed an increasing number of troops to Afghanistan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

Therefore, a specific, factual Obama policy is, in fact, identical to a specific, factual Soviet Communist policy. (Although it has nothing to do with small-c &quot;communism&quot; as an ideology.)

All you&#039;d&#039;ve had to do would be to have said that, and you&#039;d be $30 richer right now, Hapa. You didn&#039;t. You&#039;ve got nothing else. And from here on out, if you want to earn the money, you&#039;re going to have to demonstrate a clear grasp of small-c communism as a political and economic ideology.

Just admit the cider&#039;s starting to stain your shoulder already and move on with your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. I did not prove you right. I said there is one thing you would actually earn $30 on. And since you didn&#8217;t list it, I&#8217;m going to tell you and cost you the only $30 you could&#8217;ve made off me.</p>
<p>Obama has said more troops should be sent to Afghanistan:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ibEL2evo0W2dcirDt4LR2VRyBQXA" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ibEL2evo0W2dcirDt4LR2VRyBQXA</a></p>
<p>In the capital-C Communist Party of the Soviet Union from the late &#8217;70s through the &#8217;80s, the Communist leadership deployed an increasing number of troops to Afghanistan:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan</a></p>
<p>Therefore, a specific, factual Obama policy is, in fact, identical to a specific, factual Soviet Communist policy. (Although it has nothing to do with small-c &#8220;communism&#8221; as an ideology.)</p>
<p>All you&#8217;d've had to do would be to have said that, and you&#8217;d be $30 richer right now, Hapa. You didn&#8217;t. You&#8217;ve got nothing else. And from here on out, if you want to earn the money, you&#8217;re going to have to demonstrate a clear grasp of small-c communism as a political and economic ideology.</p>
<p>Just admit the cider&#8217;s starting to stain your shoulder already and move on with your life.</p>
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		<title>By: hapajap</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>hapajap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly Tony, you just proved me RIGHT by admitting there is at minimum one thing even your own slanted view will admit to being communist in nature.

I win.  :)

Though I may take you up on the rest some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly Tony, you just proved me RIGHT by admitting there is at minimum one thing even your own slanted view will admit to being communist in nature.</p>
<p>I win.  <img src='http://comicstripclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Though I may take you up on the rest some time.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyC</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That offer doesn&#039;t extend to anyone else, by the way. No helping Hapajap. He said it, he&#039;s got to defend it.

I will say this much: By the terms I laid out, there is ONE THING that if you were to state it and present it accurately would cost me $30.

You will never list it, and my money is safe. But hey. Prove me wrong, why don&#039;tcha? I know you could use the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That offer doesn&#8217;t extend to anyone else, by the way. No helping Hapajap. He said it, he&#8217;s got to defend it.</p>
<p>I will say this much: By the terms I laid out, there is ONE THING that if you were to state it and present it accurately would cost me $30.</p>
<p>You will never list it, and my money is safe. But hey. Prove me wrong, why don&#8217;tcha? I know you could use the money.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyC</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You clearly have no idea who Barack Obama really is, then, Tony. (etc.)&quot;

Wow. I am so going to keep my $300. I was going to list the fallacies from the Wikipedia list you have used JUST IN THIS PARAGRAPH, but then I realized I&#039;d bore you with big words you don&#039;t know the meaning of. Besides, it&#039;s literally easier to list the fallacies I can&#039;t specifically see you have in that comment. Those would be... the conjunction fallacy; if-by-whiskey; the homunculus fallacy; the masked man fallacy; the naturalistic fallacy; the nirvana fallacy; any of the formal syllogistic fallacies per se. Those are just the formal fallacies. I&#039;m not bothering going through the informal ones, but it doesn&#039;t look good just at a glance.

&quot;And in 60 days, he’s steered our grand ol’ ship of state more toward that goal than any other president in history.&quot;

Toward what goal? Toward communism? Wow. You... you REALLY have no idea what communism is, do you?

*sigh* Okay. Fair enough. You won&#039;t write a 3,000-word essay for $300. So write ONE factually correct, non-fallacious sentence as to ONE THING Barack Obama has done in his first two months that is communist - that actually fits the definition of communism - and I&#039;ll pay you $30. How&#039;s that for a deal?

You just have to produce ONE THING that is communist. You don&#039;t even have to prove it&#039;s MORE communist than any president in U.S. history. It just has to be small-C &quot;communist.&quot; ONE THING that fits the actual definition of communism that Barack Obama has said, done or said should be done.

In fact, $30 PER ITEM that you list that he&#039;s done that is, in fact, communist. Name 3, get $90. Name 10, get your $300, and you don&#039;t have to even spend 3,000 words on it!

NOT what somebody else has done. NOT what his mother, wife, best friend, barber or first grade teacher said.

FOR EVERY SINGLE THING Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States, has done since January 20th, 2009 that adheres to the political ideology called &quot;communism,&quot; you get $30 if you can name it.

HAPAJAP, YOU SIMPLY CAN&#039;T TURN DOWN THIS FANTASTIC OFFER!

&quot;Of course, you’ll probably be happy with his new world order. You’ve already drown in the Kool Aid.&quot;

How can you drown in poison Kool-Aid you&#039;re supposed to drink to...? Oh, I see. You have no idea what the phrase &quot;drink the Kool-Aid&quot; means, either.

You&#039;ve got cider in your other ear now, Hapajap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You clearly have no idea who Barack Obama really is, then, Tony. (etc.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. I am so going to keep my $300. I was going to list the fallacies from the Wikipedia list you have used JUST IN THIS PARAGRAPH, but then I realized I&#8217;d bore you with big words you don&#8217;t know the meaning of. Besides, it&#8217;s literally easier to list the fallacies I can&#8217;t specifically see you have in that comment. Those would be&#8230; the conjunction fallacy; if-by-whiskey; the homunculus fallacy; the masked man fallacy; the naturalistic fallacy; the nirvana fallacy; any of the formal syllogistic fallacies per se. Those are just the formal fallacies. I&#8217;m not bothering going through the informal ones, but it doesn&#8217;t look good just at a glance.</p>
<p>&#8220;And in 60 days, he’s steered our grand ol’ ship of state more toward that goal than any other president in history.&#8221;</p>
<p>Toward what goal? Toward communism? Wow. You&#8230; you REALLY have no idea what communism is, do you?</p>
<p>*sigh* Okay. Fair enough. You won&#8217;t write a 3,000-word essay for $300. So write ONE factually correct, non-fallacious sentence as to ONE THING Barack Obama has done in his first two months that is communist &#8211; that actually fits the definition of communism &#8211; and I&#8217;ll pay you $30. How&#8217;s that for a deal?</p>
<p>You just have to produce ONE THING that is communist. You don&#8217;t even have to prove it&#8217;s MORE communist than any president in U.S. history. It just has to be small-C &#8220;communist.&#8221; ONE THING that fits the actual definition of communism that Barack Obama has said, done or said should be done.</p>
<p>In fact, $30 PER ITEM that you list that he&#8217;s done that is, in fact, communist. Name 3, get $90. Name 10, get your $300, and you don&#8217;t have to even spend 3,000 words on it!</p>
<p>NOT what somebody else has done. NOT what his mother, wife, best friend, barber or first grade teacher said.</p>
<p>FOR EVERY SINGLE THING Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States, has done since January 20th, 2009 that adheres to the political ideology called &#8220;communism,&#8221; you get $30 if you can name it.</p>
<p>HAPAJAP, YOU SIMPLY CAN&#8217;T TURN DOWN THIS FANTASTIC OFFER!</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course, you’ll probably be happy with his new world order. You’ve already drown in the Kool Aid.&#8221;</p>
<p>How can you drown in poison Kool-Aid you&#8217;re supposed to drink to&#8230;? Oh, I see. You have no idea what the phrase &#8220;drink the Kool-Aid&#8221; means, either.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got cider in your other ear now, Hapajap.</p>
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		<title>By: hapajap</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>hapajap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You clearly have no idea who Barack Obama really is, then, Tony.  That&#039;s the bottom line.  He is a communist.  He was raised by a radical mother, mentored by a communist party member as his father figure in his formative years (Frank Marshall Davis), sought out and befriended Marxist teachers in college, launched his political career in the livingroom of communist and terrorist William Ayers... Add it up.  You don&#039;t have a circle of influence, mentorship, and political allies if you&#039;re NOT a what?  Say it with me now... a COMMUNIST.

Sure, he softens his rhetoric when he can remember too, but it still slips out every once in a while what his true intentions are.  And in 60 days, he&#039;s steered our grand ol&#039; ship of state more toward that goal than any other president in history.  And that is beyond dispute.  TWO MONTHS, he&#039;s done this much damage.  Just imagine what TWO YEARS will bring.

Of course, you&#039;ll probably be happy with his new world order.  You&#039;ve already drown in the Kool Aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You clearly have no idea who Barack Obama really is, then, Tony.  That&#8217;s the bottom line.  He is a communist.  He was raised by a radical mother, mentored by a communist party member as his father figure in his formative years (Frank Marshall Davis), sought out and befriended Marxist teachers in college, launched his political career in the livingroom of communist and terrorist William Ayers&#8230; Add it up.  You don&#8217;t have a circle of influence, mentorship, and political allies if you&#8217;re NOT a what?  Say it with me now&#8230; a COMMUNIST.</p>
<p>Sure, he softens his rhetoric when he can remember too, but it still slips out every once in a while what his true intentions are.  And in 60 days, he&#8217;s steered our grand ol&#8217; ship of state more toward that goal than any other president in history.  And that is beyond dispute.  TWO MONTHS, he&#8217;s done this much damage.  Just imagine what TWO YEARS will bring.</p>
<p>Of course, you&#8217;ll probably be happy with his new world order.  You&#8217;ve already drown in the Kool Aid.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyC</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no, I didn&#039;t say JFK was &quot;more communist&quot; than Obama, nor that the Democratic Party of 1960 was &quot;more communist&quot; than its 2008 counterpart, any more than I&#039;d say the reverse. See, unlike some &quot;professional cartoonists&quot; I could name who accuse others of being bad professionals while they copy-paste the same four panels over and over again, I don&#039;t use words unless I know their meaning. And since I do actually know the meaning of the word &quot;communism,&quot; I know it&#039;s patently ludicrous to call either Kennedy or Obama or any incarnations of the Democratic Party &quot;communist.&quot;

What I have implied and will say - because it&#039;s objectively true - is that Kennedy&#039;s political ideology was and is to the LEFT of Obama&#039;s (to the left, not &quot;more communist&quot;), and the Democratic Party (and indeed, the Republican Party) of 1960 was and is to the LEFT of its 2008/2009 counterpart.

But hey. If you think I&#039;m wrong, instead of saying it over and over again in hopes that it will eventually become true, prove it. If you can do that, I&#039;ll do for you what certain comics publishers won&#039;t do - give you money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no, I didn&#8217;t say JFK was &#8220;more communist&#8221; than Obama, nor that the Democratic Party of 1960 was &#8220;more communist&#8221; than its 2008 counterpart, any more than I&#8217;d say the reverse. See, unlike some &#8220;professional cartoonists&#8221; I could name who accuse others of being bad professionals while they copy-paste the same four panels over and over again, I don&#8217;t use words unless I know their meaning. And since I do actually know the meaning of the word &#8220;communism,&#8221; I know it&#8217;s patently ludicrous to call either Kennedy or Obama or any incarnations of the Democratic Party &#8220;communist.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I have implied and will say &#8211; because it&#8217;s objectively true &#8211; is that Kennedy&#8217;s political ideology was and is to the LEFT of Obama&#8217;s (to the left, not &#8220;more communist&#8221;), and the Democratic Party (and indeed, the Republican Party) of 1960 was and is to the LEFT of its 2008/2009 counterpart.</p>
<p>But hey. If you think I&#8217;m wrong, instead of saying it over and over again in hopes that it will eventually become true, prove it. If you can do that, I&#8217;ll do for you what certain comics publishers won&#8217;t do &#8211; give you money.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyC</title>
		<link>http://comicstripclub.com/?p=49&#038;cpage=2#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>TonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for how much money I make at writing, it&#039;s enough to bankroll $300 to get someone else to take a sucker&#039;s bet, but not enough to turn down $300 from someone else&#039;s sucker bet. And sorry if I&#039;m not putting my A material on your site, Hapa, but I have standards.

(Edit what you want. I don&#039;t care.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for how much money I make at writing, it&#8217;s enough to bankroll $300 to get someone else to take a sucker&#8217;s bet, but not enough to turn down $300 from someone else&#8217;s sucker bet. And sorry if I&#8217;m not putting my A material on your site, Hapa, but I have standards.</p>
<p>(Edit what you want. I don&#8217;t care.)</p>
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		<title>By: TonyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a young man about to go out into the world, my father says to me a very valuable thing. He says to me like this... &quot;Son,&quot; the old guy says, &quot;I am sorry that I am not able to bank roll you to a very large start, but not having any potatoes which to give you, I am now going to stake you to some very valuable advice. One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to come to you and show you a nice, brand new deck of cards on which the seal has not yet been broken. This man is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of the deck and squirt cider in your ear. Now son, do not bet this man, for as sure as you stand there, you are going to wind up with an earful of cider.&quot; -- Sky Masterson (Marlon Brando), &quot;Guys and Dolls&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a young man about to go out into the world, my father says to me a very valuable thing. He says to me like this&#8230; &#8220;Son,&#8221; the old guy says, &#8220;I am sorry that I am not able to bank roll you to a very large start, but not having any potatoes which to give you, I am now going to stake you to some very valuable advice. One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to come to you and show you a nice, brand new deck of cards on which the seal has not yet been broken. This man is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of the deck and squirt cider in your ear. Now son, do not bet this man, for as sure as you stand there, you are going to wind up with an earful of cider.&#8221; &#8212; Sky Masterson (Marlon Brando), &#8220;Guys and Dolls&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hapajap</title>
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		<dc:creator>hapajap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m watching old JFK speeches on youtube.  lol.

Check this one out.  Kinda creeps me out.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m watching old JFK speeches on youtube.  lol.</p>
<p>Check this one out.  Kinda creeps me out.</p>
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