What else can I say…
SAVE THE DOG!
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September 22nd, 2008 at 7:44 am
Well I don’t want Mika or Trent, so I guess I lose =/ haha
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:20 am
Umm… Or Respex?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 am
Wow, that’s tough. I’m working 2 jobs as well, 70 - 80 hours a week, living off of rice and beans (no joke) and we’re still fixing to lose our house. I hope this works out ofr you. I’ll talk to my wife about donating.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:20 am
Donation is in. Bum rap about your job. Hope everything works out. I love the comic and hope you’re able to keep drawing.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:32 am
Man, you lost your job and you are going to lose your house, and your other racial stereotype has to work two jobs?
Why, there’s no way the Republicans could be responsible for this!
*votes McCain*
*lives in a tent and panhandles the rest of his life*
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:46 am
Also, P.S., as shitty as your comic is, we’ll miss making fun of it at SA.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:53 am
Well, Gee, if you want to get into a political discussion about it…
I lost my job because my company got bought out, not because they were downsizing (which I’m sure they would have to do if Obama started taxing them more for making more than $250,000 a year…)
And I actually lost it a couple months ago, I’ve just been trying to avoid having to ask our readers to donate.
Truth is that I’m one of those people who shouldn’t have gotten a loan for a house of this price (which is ‘low end’ in San Diego, but still horribly expensive by the rest of the country’s standards), but the banks were being so bloody ‘liberal’ with their lending policies that they got me into it anyway. Had they denied me, and had I been forced to rent instead, I’d be in a much better position today.
Not that I eschew blame for accepting the loan, I’m not that type. But I do have to admit now that I need help to keep my house.
El Gato has to work two jobs because he has a special needs child whose needs are a bit more expensive than the average kid. Glad he’ll have someone like Sarah Palin in the White house as an advocate for his needs, instead of someone like Obama who would just want kids with special needs killed in the womb.
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Been reading this comic for quite a bit, commenting for the first time ever. I’m not doing too great in the money department myself at the moment, but my bit is on the way… simply because in the humongous swamp of poor to moderate webcomics, this one stands out as a single beautiful glade in the middle. Or at least, something poetic like that.
Lots of support from a crazy European dude ^^
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Thanks, Arindor. What you just said means more than all the money you could possibly send. Though I appreciate the money too. hehe.
So far Arindor has sent in the largest donation! Yay!
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
I hate to keep disagreeing with you Hap, but I don’t think that Palin was a good choice for VP. As a Republican I was hoping that McCain would have picked someone better (Christine Todd Whitman ftw!). While I respect Palin’s stance on abortion, the fact remains that her position is in fact ANTI-REPUBLICAN (as are many of her other views). I for one am incensed that the Republican party has been hijacked by people that pay lip service to core Republican values, while pursuing their own social agenda. If anyone needs a reminder, the core Republican values are:
* Low taxes with balanced budgets;
* Strong national defense;
* Engaged foreign policy;
* Protection of the environment; and
* Less government interference in the economy and individual lives.
That last one ring a bell? Republicans view government regulation as a NECESSARY EVIL. I agree that the line is hard to walk between laissez-faire capitalism and overregulation of the marketplace but government interference in individual lives is pretty self-explanatory. And guess what? A ban on abortion is interference in an individual’s life. The myth that has been perpetrated for the last twenty years that pro-life = Republican is FALSE. It’s a distortion. Unfortunately, most of the Republican candidates seem to have bought into the lie. Old school Republicans are now being labeled “Libertarians.”
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Damocles, it’s all in whether you believe that the value of life outweighs the value of ‘women’s rights’. Most conservatives do.
I refer you back to the long-winded discussion we had about this in the abortion strip. A woman owns her body, and a woman ‘owns’ the life growing in that body as much as a slave owner owned his house and ‘owned’ the slave that lived in it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I see the issue in a slightly different way: is the government restricting someone’s actions or not? In some instances, it is necessary for the government to do so (i.e. restricting a person’s violence again others), but only when society’s interests overwhelmingly demand this involvement. I disagree with abortion as a moral and personal matter, but I wouldn’t presume to tell others what to do. And the fact remains that the legalization of abortion for more than 20 years has not led to this country’s descent into chaos and anarchy.
Now as a legal scholar, I disagree with Roe v. Wade as an example of judicial activism (see Scalia’s excellent comments on judges usurping legislators here: http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/1168064,scalia091708.article ), but that’s a whole other discussion. . .
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I predict that my donation will not stand as the largest…
This comic and the comments seem to be about american politics quite a bit, and therefore, I’ll give an outsider’s view of the upcoming presidential elections.
First off, let me start by describing the political situation in my own country a bit, because that’s pretty much my starting frame of reference. Most of the political parties in this country would by american political standards be considered left-wing (yes, got to love a system with an unlimited number of parties, although it should be noted that they have to have a minimum number of signatures before a group of people is even recognised as a political party). Our most important parties at the moment are:
- A christian party that is so thorougly middle-of-the-road that so far they have been represented in almost all of our governments since WW2. If another party does good at elections and therefore becomes a likely partner for government, they’ll sway their way. Based on their actions and political baseline, even though they’re christian in origin, I’d say they’re the closest thing to Democrats we have.
- A slightly-left-of-the-middle party that originally was a social party, but has sauntered very slowly towards the middle, basically a clone of the christians now.
- A slightly-right-of-the-middle party that describes itself as “liberal”. If you look at their ideals and core values, they’re our equivalent of republicans (low taxes, budget-balancing, less government interference etc.).
- A few rabble-rousing right wing parties whose entire time is spent wildly blaming foreigners (although with a focus on arab/islamic people) for everything that goes wrong in our country. Unfortunately, we have enough dumb people with a right to vote to actually keep these cesspits alive.
- A few left wing parties who waste most of their time countering the words of the racists on the right wing, rather than actually doing something constructive with their time.
That being said, our media tends towards promoting Obama. That’s why I do my research on teh interwebs.
As far as I can tell, Obama is a very gifted and charismatic (and for a politician running for THAT particular office, young) man. His speeches are very well thought out. However, that alone is rarely enough to make a great leader in my opinion. Experience is a very important matter, and in that, from a complete outsiders point of view, Joe Biden is a rather decent choice.
Now, the media over here, and the less interested (read: too lazy to actually do their own background research) people as well, believe that it would be best from our point of view if Obama won the presidential elections, because generally Democrats tend to be “friendlier” in international relationships, which I’m not quite sure is true, and (and I’m quite sure this is NOT true) because in their eyes Republican is Republican and therefore McCain is Bush.
Yet, as far as I could find out, McCain on more than one occassion opposed Bush on votes in the Senate, and pushed beyond simply his party’s values, by doing what he believed was in the best interests of his nation. I do think Sarah Palin was a choice inspired by the fact that because of his own rather unorthodox political ways, he is not universally loved by all of the Republican party. As far as I can tell, she is a running mate that will either make him or break him during these elections.
My personal opinion, even though I won’t have a say in it whatsoever, I’d root for McCain, if he had chosen a different running mate. Now I’ll just wait and see.
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Very insightful, Arindor! From Germany, right? (I thought I recognized the CDU in your description).
September 22nd, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Nope, from the Netherlands, but I’ll give you that even the party name is only one letter off… over here it’s CDA, not CDU ;).
September 22nd, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Hey Hapajap, you said:
“El Gato has to work two jobs because he has a special needs child whose needs are a bit more expensive than the average kid. Glad he’ll have someone like Sarah Palin in the White house as an advocate for his needs, instead of someone like Obama who would just want kids with special needs killed in the womb.”
You mean like the special needs care that Sarah Palin cut funding for in Alaska, and now has a special needs child of her own? Yeah, I’m sure that’ll be high on her list of priorities.
Banks also started lending in these stupid and dangerous ways because of the DEREGULATION that McCain and Reagan Republicans pushed for so hard throughout the 80s.
I find it supremely ironic that conservatives that whined for so long for this deregulation and are now getting actively fucked by it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I find it ironic that it’s the practices that the banks have been forced to use (can you say ‘N.I.N.J.A. loans?) in the effort to make housing ‘accessible for everyone’ that caused not only the housing bubble, but now it’s collapse… is somehow being blamed on NON-INTERVENTION. Bollocks!
I won’t say Republicans haven’t had a hand in this, they most certainly have. But don’t pretend that it wasn’t BILL CLINTON who started this whole thing with his ‘equal housing’ crap.
There was a reason banks wouldn’t loan to chumps like me with no stable income before. It was good business. And obviously chumps like me tried to take advantage of the ability to own homes that were out of our reach financially, but trying to say it’s all because of ‘deregulation’ is a joke.
September 22nd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Funding for your special needs child don’t mean sh*t. If you are a responsible parent you’ll do everything in your power to give your child all that he needs and that means even fighting the government, which I already do, when the law says differently.
I don’t care whose in power, my son will have the best care I can find. If that means 14 jobs so be it.
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Geh…this gives me a headache. A man asks for help and people use it to fling insults and verbal garbage at one another. At least have the decency to refrain from profanity and childish spamming insults, a bit like this Magnus nimrod. If he finds this comic so offensively stupid, WHY is he still coming here?!
Really sorry, Hap. Really, I am. I hope you find something soon. I am running out of a job soon as well. Its scary. GOD bless you and I will pray for you, if you don’t mind? You really got all those kiddies?
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Hapajap, banks weren’t forced to loan anyone anything. The elimination of the oversight that prevented No Income, No Job or Assets loans (N.I.N.J.A. loans you reference) was removed by Republicans fighting for deregulation of the financial sector. Banks preyed upon fools like yourself because there was nobody telling them they couldn’t anymore. They figured they would milk you out of a couple years worth of a mortgage you couldn’t afford, and then when you defaulted, simply repossess the asset. Win win for them, but too bad they didn’t count on record numbers of people defaulting at the same time. You know what could have prevented that?
REGULATION.
El Gato Negro,
I agree about being a responsible parent, but not everyone is in a position to work this mythical 14 job 560 hour workweek and not everyone is as bootstrap happy as yourself. Some people NEED HELP. Everything in one’s power is often not enough to provide medical care for the people we care about because of how shitty our healthcare system is. My point is that Sarah Palin has shown zero commitment to reforming the system so that you WOULDN’T have to work “14 jobs” to get the special needs for your child - nobody should have to.
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Are people really starting a political argument on THIS comic?!?
Wow . . .
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
btw when did Mika become Princess Leia? =/
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
True that Magnus. I’m saying I agree with you. Palin or anybody (bad grammar alert) hasn’t shown any love for the special needs area. San Diego just cut funding for ourspecial needs programs and are forcing them into regular classrooms. I fight everyday with the government. I WOULD LOVE THE HELP.
But if I rely on the government to lend me a hand my child will be years behind… :(. So I bootstrap while my wife makes sure the kids get the attention they deserve.
As for 14 jobs, obviously you never worked on your deadlines for one job while, ahem, “monitoring” at your other job ><
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Where do you think I’m posting from right now?
I’m glad you at least see what I’m saying w/r/t special needs funding. But the point we disagree on is this:
You: Government, as a monolithic bureaucratic entity, will take far too long to implement the necessary reforms and funding for social programs that are important to me.
Me: Government, as a monolithic bureaucratic entity, is beholden to the will of its citizens. While government is not as responsive as individual or small-group community action, fighting for reform and regulation now is the only way to ensure that these needs are met for EVERYONE - even if it doesn’t happen immediately.
Republicans: Fuck social programs, we need to fund the next generation of stealth bombers to kill brown people!
Wait, why is everyone living in a tent now?
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
sometime i just wish we could all get along then someone like magnus comes along, makes me want to jump through the internet and strangle the fucker.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
on another note just found out i’m gonna be a dad woo hoo my nuts work!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
hope you get another job soon Hap, the comics always bring a smile when i read them!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I missed it, what about the democrats magnus?
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
“We need a medic here…”
*Screams into the winds*
“MEDIIIIC”
*Medic shows up*
“Come quick doc, we got one bleeding out over here”
Da-yum. El Gato said it best for sure.
Can’t say I’m in the best monetary situation myself (I’m sueing my dad for a hefty alimony deficit he built up for too long now) but I’ll spare some bucks on Wednesday when I get my Student loan stuff.
And considering that, would it help to buy a shirt aswell or not?
As comment on the comic, I just love how you made cartoon-Hapa look so puppydog eyed in panel 3.
and after this comic I’m kinda interested in how Hapa and Gato look “realistically”
Hmm… and as for wicked awesome movies I sometimes give ya;
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=UbyExPu8BRY
Because He. is a man of action!
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Oh Arindor! i just read through your entire post, that was impressive. It’s always nice to see someone who looks at it from both sides. Two thumbs up!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Hapajap, I think I’d fall under the “cheap bastard” category. Job security doesn’t mean great pay. I’m hoping that I can get more hours or at least find a second/replacement job. Damocles, you make being a libertarian more and more welcoming, though I’d qualify as a moderate-liberal libertarian. Gonzo, please remain civil, same to you magnus. Hapajap, do you have PayPal? If you do I’ll wire what I can. Thus ends any political talk for this particular page… I hope.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
“Uw donatie is nu voltooid.”
Dutch Paypal for the waaagh! (Actually not planning to play WAR, but i do want to restart with my Greenskin army of normal warhammer once i get mo money ^_^ )
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
OMG Magnus did you just say Palin CUT funding? Seriously do your research she did not CUT funding, she INCREASED IT. That lie by the DailyKos has already been busted. Look it up.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Congratulation on your nuts, Gonzo! Mine work too, which is why I have 4 kids and my wife won’t let me have my nookie until my nuts don’t work anymore. Snip snip!
Ug.
And thanks for all the support, guys, every little bit helps! And yes, the button to donate at the top of this very long thread and at the top of the page are paypal buttons.
Also, a special thanks to the Netherlands, where apparently I have many fans? Weird…
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
BTW, I so want to show you guys the whole princess Leia/Mika piece… but I have to have SOME incentive to drive folks to donate other than out of the goodness of their hearts.
There’s also a pic of Mika as Powergirl, and one of her in a sexy German get-up.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
What can I say? We are a very awesome country ^_^ you should visit one day
Oh god…. Can’t wait for Heroes finally returning =D
So excited i can’t sleep… 2 am here in the low countries
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
I’m donating once my check clears, and it has nothing to do with Mika!!! =/
awkward . . .
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
FO, who would you want to see for a pin-up? I’m not done compiling the E-book yet, so might be I could squeeze in another sketch.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Leroy or Ron would be nice haha
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
would be glad to help … but I do not do Paypal or cc. I would like an address to send a donation. Thanks.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Send me an email at hapajap(a)comicstripclub.com, and I’ll get you an address. Thanks!
And I guess I can do up a quick Ron-Ron sketch for the e-book, just for you, FO! :)
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I never commented any of your drawings (i just registered on the site a few minutes ago), but I liked it most of the time, and even though I usually have a different opinion on the subject (because I’m french maybe ?), it’s still interesting to see things from a different point of view.
I’ll send more if I starve enough next month !
Ah, since my vote sometimes stands left to Obama’s, where does that mean I am, left to communism ?
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:38 pm
I think if you keep going left, you eventually end up on the right. Isn’t that how it works? Three lefts make a right?
And thanks!
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Been reading the comic for a few weeks now, but registered today. This is real quality stuff in just about every respect (social commentary, humor, artistic quality, boobs) & I’d say you guys have rapidly become a favorite. While the only financial situation I’m currently experiencing is directly related to my boneheaded decision to pursue higher education (sarcasm), I really feel for both of you & I hope you can find a way out of your…”on the verge of eating someone’s dog for sustenance” dilemma. In any case, I’m pretty sure my donation went through, although definitely let me know if it didn’t (the connection conspires to isolate me from the world occasionally).
I also might be able to arrange some donations in the form of annoying dogs if you’re not really feeling like some gold old fashioned cash does the trick.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Actually, in France Obama would be middle-right, so why not ;).
I think there is no equivalent to an european left-side party in the USA.
There is probably some similar, but a candidate flagged as a socialist won’t ever get a chance to be elected as a president. While in France for instance, the socialist party (”parti socaliste” in french) had 48% of the votes on the previous presidential elections.
What I mean is that from what I see in my country, a candidate may say he is more to the left and concerned by social issues, it is never a proof of getting efficient social programs.
They certainly do promises and try to get your attention focused on the “change” that they say they will bring, but it doesn’t work 80% of the time.
Sometimes they are really convinced that they can do it, and maybe Obama is. Still, “change” is something candidates have been promising since democracy was born. This is not an argument.
I’m happy I do not have to choose myself between Obama and Mc Cain, because my selfish opinion is not focused on economy (I do not really have that kind of problems, I would not have made a donation otherwise), but on security (from a world-wide point: terrorism, war…). And then, who is the best to deal with that ? I do not think we can reach something valuable through negociation with extremists (islamists or whatever is their leitmotiv to destroy those who choose another way of life), and I do not think we can stop them by sending marines after them or even nuclear missiles.
Back on the elections: Is a side better than the other ?
Both can do shit or do well, it mostly depends on time and characters. I’m not saying one should vote just for a person who would rule the country, because when you vote for a guy, you vote for an entire team (even though in the USA, the president has a very strong power).
In a country like France or the USA (yes yes, there is a possible comparison), there is two leading parties (it is a bit more complicated in France, but it is generally how it works). Which means, except in case of special events, the “victory” of one against the other is not by a 85% majority. Most of the time, not even 55%. So the winning candidate and party have to deal with the promises they made, and the strong minority that opposes what they try to do (which often wins the next legislative elections), while trying to maintain the people happy and faithful in their government.
What does that mean ? If the previous government have been hiding (or did not see) exceptional funds that the next could raise to make their promises come true, no one is going to do exactly what they said. So, you have to vote for the things you truly believe will come true. At the time, I am a self-avowed socialist, and I would stand for McCain (hopefully, I don’t vote in USA !).
PS: This is probably a bit messy with a lot of faults and I would probably not had written such a long comment without being drunk.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Drunk politics.
i see a silly R>LC incoming…
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I sure dont want to see ET go down because of money issues… and I’ve got a big heart, so I hope the 100 bucks I donated helps out in any way possible
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:05 pm
…lot of comments here, so approximately in reverse order:
“I think if you keep going left, you eventually end up on the right.”
That’s what my PolySci prof said. The political spectrum is actually a circle. If you go “too far” in either direction, you end up at anarchist. On the right you go through conservative to libertarian and on the left from liberal to libertine.
“If you are a responsible parent you’ll do everything in your power to give your child all that [s]he needs and that means even fighting the government…”
True dat. The primary responsibility to see to it that any child’s needs are met rightfully falls upon that child’s parents. They are best situated to know the child’s strengths, weaknesses, and bents and so are least likely to fall for the kind of “one size fits all” approaches that others would take. True, there are parents that just aren’t up to the task. That’s because all it takes to become a parent is to have working reproductive organs. Further abdicating responsibility to the government doesn’t fix that, in fact, it tends to make it worse because idiots assume they don’t need to take responsibility.
It’s that kind of progression that’s at the root of many of our modern ills, I think. It starts with well-meaning people who say “If we can accomplish so much with our meager means, think what we could accomplish with the full strength of our city/state/nation.”, forgetting that what they were willing to give willingly will now be taken by force. (Taxes aren’t voluntary.) Then laws are passed that pass the responsibility from the citizens to government agencies. As time passes, more and more funding is needed to produce less and less results. It seems government has a singular knack for coming up with the worst “solutions” to any problem… and making the even worse with each iteration.
“A woman owns her body, and a woman ‘owns’ the life growing in that body as much as a slave owner owned his house and ‘owned’ the slave that lived in it.”
I’m glad to see someone else twigging on this particular aspect (civil rights as applied to the unborn). If you read through some of the articles written about slave ownership they often have rather eerie echoes in today’s abortion rhetoric. Take “After all, they’re not really human beings.” and “It’s really about property rights.” as salient examples.
I believe there’s another appropriate juxtaposition: abortion and capital punishment. Just think about how different the abortion conversation would be if we framed it in terms of “When and for what reasons would it be appropriate to choose to terminate a human life?” I find it more than a bit ironic that liberals tend to argue for the life of convicted criminals while dismissing the life of fetae, whose crime is essentially to be inconveniently unwanted.
I also find it ironic the nurse at my daughter’s school is required by law to get my written permission to administer an aspirin, but she is actively discouraged from informing me if my daughter were to come in for pregnancy counseling or to obtain condoms.
“Old school Republicans are now being labeled “Libertarians.” ”
It is ironic that many liberals and conservatives both want government control of certain aspects of our lives. They just disagree on which aspects. It’s probably part of the current polarization of society. We seem intent of pigeon-holing people into conservative/Republican or liberal/Democrat (like the whole Red State/Blue State thing) as if there were only two possibilities. I tend to wear the label Libertarian just because it still makes people ask “What do you mean by that?”
I suppose that’s because that’s essentially what we are
“simply because in the humongous swamp of poor to moderate webcomics, this one stands out as a single beautiful glade in the middle.”
…couldn’t agree more or say it any more eloquently. Hopefully our paltry donations will allow it to stand for a while longer.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:22 pm
““I think if you keep going left, you eventually end up on the right.”
That’s what my PolySci prof said. The political spectrum is actually a circle. If you go “too far” in either direction, you end up at anarchist. On the right you go through conservative to libertarian and on the left from liberal to libertine.”
Seriously speaking now, I would not say it is a circle, as if you could just reverse it. It is just that both the ways lead to a dead end (as a social “solution”).
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Screw the politics. I donated because I really love the various strips you guys do and it’s a way of giving back. Wish I could give more but I hope it helps. Good luck Hap!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:38 pm
If I’m online, I’m either in WoW, at Fark, or working my way thru the sadly few worthwhile online comix. You made the cut… and if that’s not worth a donation, I don’t know what is. Giving money for something you ENJOY is a rarity… usually some butthead hits me with a legal lead pipe and takes what he wants. You keep inking, I’ll keep reading.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Hapajap, do you have a PayPal? If not, what do you have? I’ll see what I can scrounge up and send it your way.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Nevermind, snake bite… hope it helps.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Thanks thanks and thanks to everyone! This has been a pretty good start to putting a dent in my mortgage back-payments!!! If by some miracle I could get 10 more days as good as this one, I’d be out of the woods!!
Duragon, the paypal button at the top left of the screen takes you to paypal to donate.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I figured that out when I scrolled up, hence the snakebite. My e-mail is wacky so if you can confirm it I’ll check back on this blog. Have you seen my last entry under the Better than Right? blog?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
He’s just too lazy to work. If you just give him handouts he’ll have no incentive to find a job and will just live off of MY TAX DOLLARS. This is America and there are no free rides. If you want a piece of the American Dream then you have to buy it with good, old-fashioned elbow grease. You’ve got to pull yourself up by the bootstraps just like my old man did working in the Steel Mill back in Levittown. I’m not giving a cent to some nip who wants to draw cyber-breasts all day when REAL AMERICANS are doing REAL WORK for REAL MONEY.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Honestly–I feel ashamed of how little I can give by way of donation, but…I’m a starving archaeologist myself. However, considering the amount of pleasure I get out of this comic, my donation is a sorry payment.
Seriously, I really hope things work out. Life is hard enough without the extra rough patches–but I can tell you that Electronic Tigers has made my rough patches just that much easier by giving me something worthwhile and entertaining to read.
Also–I love Mika. So much. And I’m a straight girl, so it’s not for the reason all y’alls would assume XD.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Thanks, Celune. :)
Funkenspiel, stop reading my website you hypocritical twit. Do you not watch movies, because those damned actors aren’t chopping trees for a living? Do you not read books because those frigging writers aren’t digging for coal?
You’re an idiot. I don’t think there’s much more that needs to be said.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
And all I can say to Funkenspeil is….if making something of your very own to offer to other people for their enjoyment from SCRATCH isn’t part of the American Dream, I don’t know what is. Go talk to the mega-corporations and then tell me how much they care about people and success and the elusive American Dream.
If he wanted a free ride he wouldn’t be drawing–he’d just be asking. And I HIGHLY resent the racial slur–and I’m not even Japanese. A) Grow up. B) Get off your stupid high horse and realize that there is NOTHING about you that makes you any better than the rest of us who are working like dogs every day to survive. C) Remember your own words next time you find yourself in a bad situation. I hope someone offers you the same kind words you gave Happa.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:59 pm
“Funkenspiel, stop reading my website you hypocritical twit. Do you not watch movies, because those damned actors aren’t chopping trees for a living? Do you not read books because those frigging writers aren’t digging for coal?”
Oh I couldn’t give a shit about trees and the environment. Hell, turn alaska into a oil field for all care, skin all the wild wolves you want. However, there’s plenty more to be said about your own hypocracy, if you’d like. Or you can just keep drawing horrible “political” cartoons with incredibly dim-witted strawmen arguements, like you tried to assume with me.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Just like that comment completely had a bearing on his point. Way to be killingly tangential.
If your problem is with is politics, be man enough to admit it instead of going after him in other ways.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Funkenspeil, I’m curious, what is hypocracy?
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
btw Hapajap, Ron-Ron pin-up FTW!!!!!
haha
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
If only hapa had a dollar every time someone argued politics with him in the comments
Anyways, love your character art, wondering about your background art skillz? Do any animating?
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 pm
FunkenSpiel, STFU you ignorant douche bag. Plenty of people hit hard times and need a little help. People like you are an insult to rational thought and human dignity. Oh yeah, authors don’t need to have real jobs because writing is what pays their bills. We demand stories, they supply us with them. Shut up you nihilistic, hypocritical backbirth.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:05 am
DrNero,
Sure, my backgrounds are good, but I don’t feel the need for them most of the time in E.T. I haven’t done any animation though, not since Junior College 14 years ago. lol. Why do you ask?
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:10 am
I’m always inspired the people who hate us, register to tell us. That’s a lot of effort that could be put into selecting a Sundress of choice.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 am
Wouldn’t that be a waste of time too though El Gato? To quote a very recent strip of yours: “But do you know what being pretty and knowing how to match a skirt, a top and cute little shoes does for the community… NOTHING!!!”
Seriously, I am quite certain that for some comments the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory applies.
That being said, I’m expecting to get some bonus pay on the paycheck I’m getting next week, if it’s as much as I’m hoping I may donate a bit again
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:35 am
I stand corrected Arindor, lol.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:36 am
Happa Man i’m sorry to hear about your misfortune. I’ll see what i can scrounge together to send ya. need to keep my strip club fix going somehow. Hit me up offline so i can get your location and what it is you do. I have a lot of connections in the US.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:55 am
17, my email is hapajap(a)comicstripclub.com
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 am
Hap, I certainly hope that you reach your goal, or at least enough to keep the wolf on the other side. Unfortunately, I have been unemployed since December of ‘07 and have been living on the dole. As a twenty years of being a graphic artist, I have to grudgingly accept a job at the local gas station to make ends meet. I do hope that the money I sent for the commission helped (it what was left over from a freelance gig). I will not go into any political discussion, as it will solve nothing. I do, however, encourage anyone and everyone who enjoys this strip to help. Even you, Funkenspiel. You’ve had your say, now participate in the subject at hand: helping out an artist whose comic you enjoy reading.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:21 am
Sent in my initial donation. It’s not as much as I’d like to give, but it’s as much as I can without talking to the wife first. I’ll see if I can’t add to it later, once I’ve had a chance to chat with my Lady.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 am
I have a silly question. I’ve made a donation, so now how do I get the E-book?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:13 am
You know what I’d like to see in an ET pinup? Mika as Wonder Woman, Trent as Batman, and Leroy as Superman. I think that’d be cool. Although the Mika as Power Girl can’t be anything other than awesome.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 am
BSC: “Mika as Wonder Woman, Trent as Batman, and Leroy as Superman. I think that’d be cool.”
Add Ron-Ron as the Flash and Respex as the Green Lantern and you’ve got a cast pin-up waiting to happen.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:10 am
Adding Ron-Ron as Flash and Respex as GL works for me too. You writing all this down, Hapajap?
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:33 am
I’m doing one last illustration for the e-book, which I *may* post as todays page, then I’m going to figure out how to get them into everyone who donated’s hands. So please be a tad patient.
The image is going to be an Electronic Tigers version of the ‘Enter the Dragon’ poster.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:44 am
We’ll be patient for sure. This e-book is going to be totally worth waiting for anyway, and a bit of healthy anticipation never hurt anyone
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:55 am
hy love the comic, i already spend alot of credit this month , but ill donate after the bill comes;
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am
*Pours a 40 that he got for the specific purpose of pouring*
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
So how do we get this e-book once it reaches completion?
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
We’re probably going to set up a private link for downloads. I’ll email it to everyone who donated more than 10 bucks.
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Okay, I just sent the e-books to everyone who donated $10 or more via yousendit.com. Please check your emails and junk folders in case it gets lost!
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pm
First - sorry to hear about your current situation. I’ll check out the finances and see what I can contribute.
Second - Palin did not cut funding for disable (special needs). Please don’t repeat what you read on the Kossacks site without doing a fact check.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/newest_palin_smear_she_cut_spe.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Got it!
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Like the pin-ups?
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm
I got laid off by DUB Magazine in April. It’s hurting everywhere, man.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Hey Hapajap, my main e-mail is busted. Did you get the payment and all?
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:45 pm
If you didn’t get your e-book email and you donated more than 10 bucks, then no, I didn’t get it. I’ve sent out e-books to everyone who has.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Hey Hapjap and Gato, I’ve been reading this comic for the past week or so and I love it! I rally want to help out with a donation but things are pretty tight until Friday. I’ll be sending some scratch your way then.
Keep up the good work! It’s really refreshing. I’ll be praying for you and your families.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Got the e-book
Man, are those pin-ups sweet…
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Hey Hap, I’m looking at my info and I need to verify if these pieces of info are legitimately tied to you or did someone just jack the money I donated?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I got it, ‘thetassadar’, right? You should have gotten a reply email with how to get your e-book, did you not? Check your spam folder, maybe.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
My e-mail is completely busted. I just sent you an e-mail through my hotmail account. If it’s not too much trouble treat that as my main e-mail. And as soon as I get a better paying job, or better hours, I’ll send some more your way.
September 24th, 2008 at 5:17 am
So instead of paying $49.99 or $99.99, I could pay 1 cent more and get a crapload of more stuff? I’m being a smart cheapskate.
September 24th, 2008 at 6:09 am
Haha… Yep! Well… maybe not a CRAPload…
September 24th, 2008 at 7:14 am
it depends on whether or not they are going to add tax on that sikass
I’m putting money in the donation jar this weekend, is that going to be too late? =(
September 24th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Nope, we’ll be running this for a month for the contest’s sake (the ‘who donates the most and gets a cameo’ contest).
September 24th, 2008 at 7:56 am
I meant for you =P Haha, not for the contest
September 24th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Hap, I did my part to help! I gave you a mention on my blog! Hope it helps!
http://bustysuperherochick.blogspot.com/2008/09/please-contribute-to-worthy-cause.html
September 24th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Oh, haha. Well, it takes time to foreclose on a house, and they haven’t started yet, I’m just in default… and since it’s with Countrywide who is backed by Fannie Mae, I think, they probably will let me slide for a little bit.
Thanks to both of you!
September 24th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Wow. Truth be told, a lot of comments here. Sorry about the position you are currently in Hapa. I just finished a commission piece a while ago, plus working on contract position for the government. Times are tough across North America these days.
By the way, if anybody does decide to contribute to this cause will the donation be through PayPal?
September 24th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Yep. I’ve had lots of little contributions, and a few 3 figure ones. I’m about 1/4th of the way there now!
September 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
thats awesome, its good everyone has big hearts
September 24th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
i work a lot so if you come to kentucky i’d let you have my job or get you hired on at the store i work at. so i can get some quiet time with family. my kids have forgotten what i look like! Just the other morning my 6 year old walks into the bedroom wakes me up with the shriek from hell “There’s a stranger in poppa’s spot!” so far 3 weeks no time off and all vacations are on hold until after christmas……. i think i’m going to die
September 27th, 2008 at 2:35 am
I sent in my measly donation. I wish I had more money to donate (like a lot of people)
Here’s hoping you make your goal!
September 29th, 2008 at 7:39 am
As far as Funkenspiel goes, I smell a troll. Notice that he’s gone now, so all is well.
Hap and EGN - I’ll try and see what I can scrape up. Never really felt like donating to a webcomic before, but despite a lot of my disagreements with your views, Hap, I still love the comic. Keep ‘em rolling!
October 13th, 2008 at 9:43 am
Thank you for the gorgeous e-book; I hope this works out for you and we get to keep enjoying your work as well! You’ve brightened many a day since I found your strip!
Having recently retired after 30 years I’m waiting for them to tell me I won’t be getting my check next month…may we all find a way out of the “pit”…
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:32 pm
whuh oh, we have SPAM happening here… if you need some help with that, hit me up at my email addy; you should have that from the registration details, or my details on the forum. I’ve got some neat tricks, having had to deal with quite a bit of it myself ^_^ This isn’t a solicitation, consider it my contribution since I’m a bit too on the ropes to throw money your way right now, although I dig the comics and want to see ‘em keep going. -Don
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Looks like you’ve already deleted it. ^_^ Still, if it keeps happening there are some really cool tools out there to nab it before you have to, for Wordpress even.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I’ll have El Gato tap you, I have no idea how all this stuff works. heh.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:17 am
To me, the fact you have to work more than one job to make ends meet, get your child the care it needs, or pay the way over the top loan they got you to sign, just shows something is fundamentally wrong.
November 6th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Uh, yeah, I bought a house I couldn’t afford. What’s not to get?
November 11th, 2008 at 6:05 am
Woah!
So…who won?
November 14th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Check the Veteran’s day strip.
November 28th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
“I won’t say Republicans haven’t had a hand in this, they most certainly have. But don’t pretend that it wasn’t BILL CLINTON who started this whole thing with his ‘equal housing’ crap.”
Your understanding of the situation is childish. The “equal housing crap” was about blacks being denied the same loans that whites with EXACTLY EQUAL credit and employment histories being denied the same loans.
If you’re going to argue against something, use facts and not racist talking points twice regurgitated from Limbaugh.